imacowgirltoo
17 years ago
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Well, I don't crib! LOL
-and I have never had a horse that did, so I can't answer that one!
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firstappylady
17 years ago
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But, the question is, Vicky, did it help with your cribbing? LOL
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imacowgirltoo
17 years ago
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Jane, the B1 helped your horse to calm down, and since it is a B vitamin, the body flushes out daily what it doesn't need, so you must replace it. As for magnesium, I recently read cribbers are deficient in this mineral, and many quit cribbing when added to their diet. (I have taken it for years and it helped to decrease my restless legs, & improve my sleep.)
If anyone is still interested in this post, I will tell you what I feed my barrel horses, and why:
Check the label of your pellets for the fat content. I prefer 6-8%, which costs more. The larger feed mills are dropping the fat from a former 6% to 4% and even 2%, and horses lose weight. This includes some Purina, Cargill, & Nutrena feeds. I also feed a stabilized Rice Bran at night, for the fat content. You can feed the cheaper feed, just supplement w/oil or rice bran so your horse doesn't loose weight.
Besides a good oil every morning to increase their calories w/o making them silly, I like to add Source, which is a seaweed blend of micronutrients. The horses love it, fishy smell & all! My favorite supplement I have to order from Buckeye Nutrition in Ohio, is Ultimate Finish™ which is an extruded micro-nugget containing a blend of vegetable oils, flax seed, soybeans and rice bran. (smells & looks like cereal!!) It is fortified with nutrients, including electrolytes, which affect muscle function. It helps my horse digest his other feed.
Sometimes I mix in a 1/2 scoop of oats & a little sweet feed to my competition horses, to increase their energy, just ask Rancher or anyone at the recent X-treme Race in St. Jo! LOL -my horse felt toooo good! But he burns it off pretty quickly, and if I want him to run, I feed oats!
Vicky
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Horses need a job! Float their teeth, worm them and give quality forage supplimental feeds are best for horse needing added nutrition if being worked regularly or in severe weather climates.
Horses in the wild do not need added feed when in good health. Shoot who's going to feed them grain.
So in short ride'em don't stall them
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My horse is a QH rather than a TB, but he stopped being spooky and high-headed when I added Thiamine (B1) and Magnesium powder to his feed. Night and day difference. Someone also mentioned oats and molasses - both are found in sweet feed (4-way), and I gave mine away because it makes him hot.
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i quit feeding oats and beet pulp as added goodies to the horses grass hay/grass pasture diet and went to nutrena's safe choice and added a glug (1/4 cup?) of oil to each serving. any oil. any inexpensive whateverisonsale oil works FINE. if you want fat, feed fat. i have noticed a Huge change in them after taking them off the oats/pulp. MUCH nicer, lots cooler, tempermentwise. we rarely add alfalfa~~ours aren't working much and really don't need the extra protein. you should see what this diet has done for my herd. we have a mix of appys, mustangs, draft/paints, and QH. they look AWESome and the hard keeper (saddlebredX) that was here when i arrived last year looks like he's in show condition this spring.last spring he was all ribs. another thing that i have noticed is that as the grass is comming up, they will barely touch the hay. they just stare over the fence at the pasture, longing for the juicy stuff. once they get turned out regularly, they will go back to eating the hay a little better.
Good luck with your horse!
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Watch the beet pulp. I have an older mare, and her senior feed has it in it. The vet checked it because older horses or those with poor teeth will choke on the dried pulp. They swallow it and as it absorbs moisture, it expands and gets stuck. My vet said this usually happens when it is feed alone and not small amounts mixed in feed.
Good Luck,
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One of my TB's gets very uncontrolable on Oats, he is very hard to manage on the track. Equine senior is a great feed, he gained weight and didn't go stupid. My trainer used a food up in Canada that looked like dog food but was a horse feed, sure helped my gelding to stay calmer if there is such a thing for a TB on the track to be calm.
I also have used ground flax seed in their grain, they gain weight and they get a nice shine to their hair.
Kath
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Fiesty,
You may have already gotten your horse settled down, but since this post came back up, I thought I would add to it.
I have currently have 5 TB’s, 4 are OTTB's. I have other breeds too, but they do not have these problems. I have had the TB's for about 5 years now.
You did not mention if the horse gets out to exercise regularly, or if he is out in a pasture all the time. Since it was not mentioned, I will just keep on going with this.... TB's do not do well cooped up in a stall... Especially OTTB's. When they are on track in training, they are used to being jogged or galloped a mile or more 5, 6, or sometimes 7 days a week, depending on the trainer. I have known of some trainers (not that I agree with their training methods, and they are not successful in wins) that jog, or gallop some of them 4 to 5 miles a day. Personally, in my opinion, that is way too much! Never the less some trainers do it. Most OTTB’s do need regular exercise of some sort, or they will get goofy, fret, and loose weight.
If your horse was getting exercise, then here is another thought..... One of my TB’s started losing some weight recently, she is a naturally nervous horse, and got really goofy (weaving). She does get some exercise every day, but not nearly as much as if she was in training. I had her thyroid tested with a blood test. It was off. I started her on some supplements that naturally calm a horse, and it has helped. She is gaining her weight back.
While I had been inquiring at the track, about my horse losing weight , several TB Trainers told me about a feed made by Nutrena called “Safe Choice”. I was told that a lot of the Horse Rescues that re-hab and find homes for OTTB’s use it. They said that it was very safe for adding weight to the TB’s without causing founder, or hyperactivity. I personally have not used it, but it may be worth looking into. Here is a link to the feed:
http://www.nutrenaworld.com/Screens/BrandListing.aspx?BrandID=89
Good Luck
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Like dogs different breeds of horses were created to do different levels of work. The TB is designed to run. They were bred for it and do well slightly leaner than a Quarter horse. Quarter horses were bred not only for there short distant speed but also to work on ranches which sometimes is slow fencing work and sometimes quick cattle work. They don't need all of that lean for speed, they need bulk to haul a post or a cow. So when feeding remember what your horse was bred to do. They don't need to look like cattle remember they are athletes. Would we expect Mark Spitz to swim record times if he were 25lbs over weight. Rhonda
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