While I was reading this post, I noticed an ad to the right of the screen titled "bitless bridles". Kinda Scary, like they have spies to see what we are reading. They have both types that lazytsha, and singlefilly were discussing on there (ebay)...didn't see any side pulls on the three pages the link gets you to though. http://search.ebay.com/bitless-bridle_W0QQfclZ4QQfnuZ1QQfsopZ1

I would "hope" by your seat. I dont ride em ..so i dont know. reiners anyway.. I would think your seat , not alot of hand. I think she was referring to the "bitless bridle" not a bosal or hackamore. I was showing her the site to it for information about that """"particular bridle"""". she didnt ask about bosals or hackamores but if she wants the info on them Im sure you can give it to her for I have no experience with them.

Read about it. it is not a bosal nor a hackamore. I posted websites for information on it. for instance with the bitless bridle we can school dressage movements but with the bosal it would be quite difficult. It has precise points of pressure thru the reins whereas with the bosal I think it would be more hands on and not correct its more take and release.and neck reining?.. I dont have any experience with a bosal but I am simply saying I think ""that is what she was referring to.""

I do believe if Im not Mistaken she is referring to a "bitless bridle" . it is a special bridle that puts pressure on points ,not a typical hackamore or bosal. I may be wrong to what she means .But this is the True bitless bridle . http://www.bitlessbridle.com/ http://www.nurturalhorse.com/Bitless_bridles_great.html#what_is_bitless

There are a couple of good books about the use of the Hackemore, or Jaquima as it's known in Spanish. The California Reinsman comes to mind. If you're going to try a Hackemore, or Bosal (there the same), it's important to find a good one made of braided rawhide with a rawhide core. A big old heavy one isn't necessary, a nice middle size is best, maybe 1/2 to 3/4 inches in diameter. A horsehair McCarthy goes with the rig and needs to be tied properly. A good source for learning how to tie the McCarthy (or Mecate in Spanish) is "How to Make Horse Gear" by Grant. It's paperback and I'd imagine it's on Amazon. The Hackemore works off of the horses chin and a bit on the nose. I first tried one years ago when I wound up with a racehorse that would take off whenever it was around other horses. A bit scared him to death and he'd just take it and go so, I tried a rawhide Hackemore. It worked swell and I've used one regularly ever since and I rode that racehorse for 22 years. He had a beautiful headset and was collected and balanced. So, try one and I think you'll find you can't do without one. Best Wishes, Fremont

FWIW--it is not the equipment in the hands but the hands on the equipment that makes or breaks a horse. everytime we connect w/our horses (thru bit, rein, lead, brush, etc.) we are teaching them something. make sure that "something" is something you want learned. a strong firm verbal cue for "whoa" helps alot on the ground as well as making for a safer first ride. cannot start that cue too young. i am amazed at folks that start these young ones out with learning to "go" before they have any idea about "whoa" as if anything young and healthy does not want to move. just my halfpence worth. ya'll have a blessed weekend.

A rawhide hackamore, or Bosal works swell with both colts and older horses. I use one regularly for a change on my well broke horses and there isn't much better for starting a youngster. For a chargy or bolting horse it gives you more control than any bit can and, it doesn't make the problem worse. If you're going to use one, find a good one, and ask someone who has used one how it works. It's all pressure and release, mostly release.

Remember that when you ride, you the feet and not the face. When you don't have brakes it is not the head that is running away with you but the feet.

Wanna, I have used them off an on over the years with my horses. I had a mare that I barrel raced that hated a bit, she did wonderful with one. Now I mainly used them on trail rides with the horses I compete on to give them a break and it let's them know that "work" is not involved when they have it on. There are many to choose from so consult someone near you as to what your horses needs may be if you think that is a route you want to go with your horse. Good Luck!

Hi We had problems with a pony that i rescued called Bengie. He did not like a bit being put in his mouth, tried different ones, all the usual stuff. He would not stop, put his tongue over the bit, crossed his jaw,etc. In the end i got a Dr Cook to try on him after researching it. For the first time since getting him he would respond to the aids. He was a lot happier in himself and we have brakes. As my daughter is now doing Parelli she rides him in a rope halter. Michelle